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 Your choice to start at PF
 Anunoby 6 35%
 Ibaka 4 23%
 Siakam 7 41%
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JeffB_STR82DVD

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If you had a choose one of the three main options to start at PF who would be your choice?

I think all three will get starts and it will be fluid based mostly on matchups. Putting that aside who do you think should get the bulk of the starts?
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OG or Ibaka.

Siakam and Fred are the engine of the 2nd unit.

Both of and Ibaka are great options, but of is more versatile. Outside of a few teams with two large bigs, he'd be the better defensive option.
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Ibaka. Save OG from full time starting PF duty, get big lineup reps in (when opponents are biggest), pull Ibaka early to come back in with the bench, letting OG get shorter runs at PF when Green comes in, get Ibaka his minutes early so we can go with a smaller perimeter to close games. Everyone wins.
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OG. 

Ibaka would be best being the back-up 5.


Depth Chart*:
PG: Kyle Lowry, Fred VanVleet, Lorenzo Brown, Jordan Loyd (two-way)
SG: Danny Green, Delon Wright, Malachi Richardson
SF: Kawhi Leonard, C.J. Miles, Norman Powell
PF: OG Anunoby, Pascal Siakam, Chris Boucher
C: Jonas Valanciunas, Serge Ibaka, Greg Monroe
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we're going to miss poeltl a bit btw, he's often overlooked because we have so much talent, but some of the things he brought were unique on the team, at least in that combination. Ibaka is as quick, but nowhere near the same rebounder/screen setter, Monroe is a great rebounder/setter/passer, but he's slow as molasses. Jv comes closest, but he's much slower + plays with the starting 5. Boucher appears more of a CB4 type of player. We'll adapt, but there will be times when we miss jakob.
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I'm with Doc and my depth chart is similar. Given Ibaka plays better with limited minutes (in the 18-20 minute range), it's best to have him come off the bench and take over Poeltl's role, where he can play more of a rim protector role and get shots in the paint.
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I'm with Doc and my depth chart is similar. Given Ibaka plays better with limited minutes (in the 18-20 minute range), it's best to have him come off the bench and take over Poeltl's role, where he can play more of a rim protector role and get shots in the paint.


Plays better when playing 18-20min? How often has he played 18-20min since coming here, excluding blowouts?
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No idea. I expect enough experimentation and changes to the system to simply want to see what works best with all that in mind. Too hard to use past performance based on all the different approaches and big jumps in abilities in play. And I really like not having any idea.
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Plays better when playing 18-20min? How often has he played 18-20min since coming here, excluding blowouts?
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He plays better in spurts. He struggles when given many minutes not to mention in back-to-back games or when playing like 3 in 4 or 4 in 6. Keep his minutes down and hope he plays well in the limited and more consistently across games. This is a scenario I’ve mentioned numerous times in order to maximize Ibaka’s contributions. Definitely need to try something different with him.

Granted, who knows how well he would take to being a reserve.
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He plays better in spurts. He struggles when given many minutes not to mention in back-to-back games or when playing like 3 in 4 or 4 in 6. Keep his minutes down and hope he plays well in the limited and more consistently across games. This is a scenario I’ve mentioned numerous times in order to maximize Ibaka’s contributions. Definitely need to try something different with him.

Granted, who knows how well he would take to being a reserve.


not sure if that's the reason, it wasn't as much spurts as playing well one game in 4. I really don't think it was a matter of being fatigued, but I don't have any clue as to why. Probably part of the reason is that he's a jump shooter now, and games where his shot was off were frequent.
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I wish there was an option for all three. Still feels like the future, and hey, why not the immediate future?
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 i expect Siakam to solidify his role as starting PF by years end. OG just isnt a real PF long term. He is a 3. With Kawhi here he obviously wont be starting and i think he gets overmatched battling big 4s on a nightly basis. Dont do him like we did Ross and Norm making them battle out of position every night and then be upset when they look fatigued, uninspired or overmatched. 
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 i expect Siakam to solidify his role as starting PF by years end. OG just isnt a real PF long term. He is a 3. With Kawhi here he obviously wont be starting and i think he gets overmatched battling big 4s on a nightly basis. Dont do him like we did Ross and Norm making them battle out of position every night and then be upset when they look fatigued, uninspired or overmatched. 


I still don’t quite understand this line of thought. He’s not just a 3. OG is taller and heavier than Draymond (with tree trunk legs mind you) and can match up with any PF out there. He’s also shown a proclivity to excel at the 4 spot in Summer League which bodes well with him playing with Leonard. OG can defend 1-5 and think he can even play some 2. I also believe we’ll see a lot of KL, OG and PS together, probably Klow, KL, OG, Siakam, Ibaka.
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Yeah. OG was not exactly overmatched against Lebron and there aren’t a lot of guys more powerful than him out there. And Ross and Powell didn’t have their problems stemming from being overmatched on defense. Offense has been where problems lie there.

Call all three power forwards. And that would in effect make none of them power forwards, which would be good since it’s a position that is difficult to define within increasingly positionless schemes. Forget the label and get all three guys more focused on working together in similar ways and you’ve got something.
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 I rather OG off the bench. I still contend he is best suited as a 3. The other points about Ross and Norm seem short sighted. Of course guarding guys who are physical and bigger than you takes a toll night after night and can hurt your offense, too. 

 I also contend that Siakam just has way more tools than OG and you really arent losing much, if anything, defensively. He has better handles, vision, passing, rebounds in traffic, quicker first step etc. I see him as the future starting PF not OG. Siakam desperately needs that corner 3 to go consistently and he becomes not just a starting quality 4 but close to an elite one in terms of skillset. Way more Draymond like than OG.
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