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DocHolliday
elT wrote:


Sure. But late first round picks are essentially random crap shoot and have significantly lower value than top lottery picks.


For sure.  I think the only team that has a high lottery pick(s) is NY.  I don't see Boston's  Memphis pick conveying till 2020 (and who knows how the Grizz will be playing by then, probably shitty but still a gamble for NOP).  With the backlash towards Boston from AD's group plus Ainge's tactic of keeping Tatum out of the back channel offer and NY's lack of assets, (Ntilikina/Knox/Robinson - DSJ can't be traded for 2 mos - NY's youth isn't very inspiring) - I can't see either team getting AD.  

I think after the 1st season of an AD trade, good chance that whatever team AD is on will be a playoff team, which will drop the value of any other 1sts NOP may have acquired from that team.  I guess that gives more leverage to NY.
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elT
DocHolliday wrote:


For sure.  I think the only team that has a high lottery pick(s) is NY.  I don't see Boston's  Memphis pick conveying till 2020 (and who knows how the Grizz will be playing by then, probably shitty but still a gamble for NOP).  With the backlash towards Boston from AD's group plus Ainge's tactic of keeping Tatum out of the back channel offer and NY's lack of assets, (Ntilikina/Knox/Robinson - DSJ can't be traded for 2 mos - NY's youth isn't very inspiring) - I can't see either team getting AD.  

I think after the 1st season of an AD trade, good chance that whatever team AD is on will be a playoff team, which will drop the value of any other 1sts NOP may have acquired from that team.  I guess that gives more leverage to NY.


And even more to us because if he leaves those picks we send could be very high, and we'd send them unprotected. Earliest we can convey one is 2021. Davis is FA in 2020, there's a good chance he leaves and suddenly that pick and one in 2023 could be very high.

At the same time, who the hell knows what happens by 2021. But AD traded to Lakers means he stays there and that means they probably add another star to him and LeBron and that means bottom five pick as long as those three are playing and healthy. With Raptors, there's this two playoff runs window that might become one such run if Kawhi leaves.
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JeffB
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@BA_Turner
Lakers pull out of Anthony Davis trade talks amid 'outrageous' requests by Pelicans https://t.co/VpB2P0pGa6

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My man @BA_Turner who has covered the Lakers since forever says they have removed themselves from the Anthony Davis trade talks ... https://t.co/lMvF2NH3N4
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JeffB
@wojespn
The Lakers are still glad to engage with the Pelicans on an Anthony Davis trade, but no longer want to bid against themselves, league sources tell ESPN. Lakers are waiting for Pelicans to make a counter-proposal.
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JeffB

✔@FletcherWDSU

FWIW, Dell Demps in weird spot.

Pelicans likely to “clean house” in April.
So Benson/Loomis only doing AD/Lakers deal if haul for NOLA is mind blowing. They want new GM set up for success.
LA doesn’t blow them away, they’ll be patient, new GM will “own the AD trade” this summer.

12:54 AM - Feb 5, 2019

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Pzabby_2nd
Sounds like raps are done for regarding AD. Maybe we sneak Beal because Masai has been secretly working on that all along?
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moremilk
elT wrote:


Sure. But late first round picks are essentially random crap shoot and have significantly lower value than top lottery picks.


That's what the nets thought when they traded with Boston.

But AD has a history of injuries, and LeBron is 35 and starting to show cracks.


There's a not insignificant chance that some of those picks could be extremely valuable, especially those that convey 4 years from now or later.

Also, if the Lakers trade their whole team, and have no picks, they would have little money to round up the roster. AD and LeBron are a great core, but you still need some quality pieces around them they may get cheap veterans on min contract, but there are only so many of those that can play starter minutes.

As for Boston, Tatum is vastly overvalued as an asset imo. I'd rather have a shioad of picks and young players than Tatum and little else. I don't see Tatum as a cornerstone player tbh. More like a Carmelo type of career, maybe a little better.
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LX
The Nets gave no consideration to the picks. They had a crazy Russian who was going to spend stolen oil money on a championship.

I agree about Tatum. He looks a lot like Rudy Gay to me.
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JeffB
moremilk wrote:


That's what the nets thought when they traded with Boston.

But AD has a history of injuries, and LeBron is 35 and starting to show cracks.


There's a not insignificant chance that some of those picks could be extremely valuable, especially those that convey 4 years from now or later.

Also, if the Lakers trade their whole team, and have no picks, they would have little money to round up the roster. AD and LeBron are a great core, but you still need some quality pieces around them they may get cheap veterans on min contract, but there are only so many of those that can play starter minutes.

As for Boston, Tatum is vastly overvalued as an asset imo. I'd rather have a shioad of picks and young players than Tatum and little else. I don't see Tatum as a cornerstone player tbh. More like a Carmelo type of career, maybe a little better.


Better than Melo in his prime? Not sure I see that.....Melo was scary for the first 8+yrs of his career.
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Rene_13
The Lakers just got destroyed by 42 points vs Indiana. I really hope the Pels don’t give in and trade AD. I’m so sick of LeBron always getting what he wants.
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