JeffB Show full post »
elT
Tommy C wrote:
Just out of curiosity elT - how can you say the Celtics suck ass when they are leading the conference so far? I’m not sold on Stevens nor their roster but they definitely don’t “suck ass”. Remove DD or Lowry from the team and I’m not sure we are even a playoff team while they lost GH for the season and they are still rolling. They may be flawed or overachieving but you’re acting like they are the Hawks or Magic. In fact, I’m not even sure we beat them in the playoffs. I do agree this trade is nothing special and kind of silly.



Obviously not entirely serious and there are many different levels of "suck ass". 

Anyways, a lot of their fans are realistic that they've overachieved and that their record is not "real". They are 8-5 in 3pt games, in other words, won a ton of close ones. Even last night, one point win in Denver(didn't watch that one). Any number of those could have gone either way and if they did, their record would better reflect their level of play. Some of that is coaching some of that is Irving's hard on and talent for clutch performance and their defense has been really good. But I don't think any of it is sustainable and these things will catch up with them sooner or later.
Quote 0 0
LX
I now wish I had gone for a master's degree with a thesis entitled The Different Levels of ”suck ass”. I suppose it's not too late. Seriously though, if someone wrote a book I'd buy it.
Quote 2 0
elT
LX wrote:
I now wish I had gone for a master's degree with a thesis entitled The Different Levels of ”suck ass”. I suppose it's not too late. Seriously though, if someone wrote a book I'd buy it.


Typing that felt like living one of the trash youth comedies of late 1990s early 2000s. 
Quote 2 0
JeffB
Quote 0 0
Raptorman
Pistons should trade for some fans.  That place is empty every game.
Quote 0 0
ex2k
Raptorman wrote:
Pistons should trade for some fans.  That place is empty every game.


Think this was one of the driving forces for this trade.

They wanted to land a Star player signed to a long term contract to fill the seats in the new arena.


Quote 0 0
JeffB
Haaaahhhhh!!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BelMi7dj02d/
Quote 1 0
DocHolliday
JeffB_STR82DVD wrote:
Haaaahhhhh!! https://www.instagram.com/p/BelMi7dj02d/

LMAO!
Quote 0 0
LKeet6
^haha! Good...

(from fargo, the movie, in case anyone is wondering...)
Quote 0 0
DocHolliday
Quote:
Stan Van Gundy acknowledged Blake Griffin's injury history on Tuesday but said that bringing in a five-time All-Star was worth the risk for a franchise that has struggled to bring in top-tier talent.
"Our thinking was this: The hardest thing to do in this league is to get a proven star," Van Gundy said. "The guy's a five-time All-Star. He's been an All-NBA guy, [one of] top 15 guys in the league. He's only 28 years old. We know the injury history -- that's the risk on it. But that risk was worth it because of the talent we're bringing back." While Griffin will not play on Tuesday, there's a good chance he'll be able to make his Pistons' debut on Thursday against the Grizzlies. Jan 30 - 4:49 PM
Source: ESPN
Quote 0 0
DocHolliday

Stan Van Gundy: Blake Griffin's injury history worth the risk


Quote:

AUBURN HILLS, Mich. -- Stan Van Gundy knows there is risk in dealing for Blake Griffin, but it's a risk the Detroit Pistons coach and president of basketball operations was willing to take for a franchise in need of a boost.

"Our thinking was this: The hardest thing to do in this league is to get a proven star," Van Gundy said after Tuesday's shootaround. "It's just very hard to do. It's hard to do in free agency. It's hard to do in trades. You get very few opportunities to do it.

 

EDITOR'S PICKS

 

"The guy's a five-time All-Star. He's been an All-NBA guy, [one of] top 15 guys in the league. He's only 28 years old. We know the injury history -- that's the risk on it. But that risk was worth it because of the talent we're bringing back."

Detroit acquired Griffin on Monday night in a package that sent Tobias HarrisAvery Bradley, a future first-round pick and some other assets to the Los Angeles Clippers.

Griffin is averaging 22.6 points and 7.9 rebounds per game this season, on par with his career averages of 21.6 points and 9.3 boards per game. He has dealt with knee, quadriceps, elbow, hand and back injuries during his career and has only played an 82-game season once, in 2010-11.

Van Gundy said Griffin would not be available to play in Tuesday night's game against the Cleveland Cavaliers. He noted that Griffin, who still hasn't arrived in Detroit, is "questionable" for Thursday's game against the Memphis Grizzlies, as all players involved in the deal have to pass their respective physicals.

The Pistons (22-26) enter Tuesday's game having lost eight games in a row, but Van Gundy held firm to his conviction that the circumstances didn't necessarily prompt the trade.

"If we had won 10 in a row and Blake Griffin were available, we would have done the same thing," Van Gundy said.

Van Gundy said he spoke to Griffin after the deal was completed and that he was "eager for the challenge" to help the Pistons.

"If there were no risk involved, if Blake didn't have any injury history, he wouldn't be available," Van Gundy said. "So we take the risk to get that high-level talent. We just weren't in a position, we're not in a position even now, even with eight losses in a row, and we haven't been in a position even before I got here to get draft pick 1, 2, 3 [or] 4.

"The highest draft pick on our roster is 8. That's rare in this league. Everybody's got a top-three or -four pick somewhere on their roster, and we didn't. It's hard to go that way. This wasn't a conscious decision to be, some people were saying, 'all in.' It was that a guy became available who's a great player and we took the opportunity to do it."

Griffin's new teammates are excited to get the chance to play with the No. 1 pick from the 2009 draft.

"It's a big trade," point guard Reggie Jackson said. "It's hard to ever get a chance to get a former No. 1 pick. I think we all know what Blake can do, how great he's been in the league. It was very tough for us to lose somebody that I've spent time with over the last two years [in] Tobias, even Avery, he's been outstanding with his [brief] time here. We grew into a brotherhood."

Van Gundy acknowledged that three weeks ago he never would have thought he'd be dealing Harris in this kind of move, but he reiterated that anything can happen in the league, especially this time of year. Van Gundy admitted that part of the reason Bradley was included in the deal was because the Pistons figured he would probably field higher offers as he hits the market this summer.

Van Gundy compared his wheelings and dealings to that of a baseball team.

"When you look at all the analytics ... we understand that it's a perimeter league," Van Gundy said. "But if you look at like the Tampa Bay Rays in baseball -- so everybody wanted power hitting and on-base percentage. They couldn't get that. What did they go do? They went and built it on relief pitching and defense and were very, very competitive for years.

"So we're not in a situation where we can be that choosy, and we can't necessarily go and try to do it the same way as everybody else. We're going to be different. Our money and our talent is in our big guys and in Reggie when we get him back. People are going to have to play to us a little bit on that matchup too."

The Pistons seem most excited about the idea of pairing Andre Drummond -- the NBA's leading rebounder this season -- with Griffin and seeing how the duo can take over games. But Van Gundy knows his team will undergo some major schematic changes in the short term.

"It's going to be an adjustment for Andre because we've run everything, literally everything, through him this year," Van Gundy said. "Now that obviously won't be the case, we'll run a lot of stuff through Blake and he'll be in different positions off the ball. That will be a little bit different, it will take some adjustment."

As the dust cleared on one of the biggest trades of the year, Van Gundy reiterated that no player in the NBA is above being traded if the right package presented itself.

"I've said it before, I'll stick to it: Every single guy in this league is available," Van Gundy said. "I don't give a s--- what any organization tells you. Every single guy in this league is available. Now some of them, it's going to be very hard to get because their price would be really, really high. But hell, you can put together a deal for LeBron [James], you can out together a deal for Kevin Durant. Every guy in this league's available. If they don't have a no-trade [clause], they're available."

Quote 0 0