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^nothing at all to add, and I always have something to add. Nicely put doc.
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LKeet6
DocHolliday wrote:


I struggle with this.  To my recollection all I've heard is Casey wanting more ball movement, more 3pt shooting and wanted to implement a similar system the team has now in the summer of 2015.  He was excited in an interview with the signing of Carroll and really wanted Matthews as well.  He spoke of how those 2 along with Patterson would open the game up completely for everyone else with their passing, defense, 3pt shooting and ability to switch amongst themselves.  We had a thread - or several comments - here on it as well at the time; I was stoked about it.  Unfortunately, the team missed out on Matthews, Carroll was a shell of himself and Patterson seemed to lose himself.  Casey went back to what had worked with the players he had and what they were able to give him - the results were 50+ regular season wins and deep runs in the playoffs, which ended the same in both years, against the Cavs. 

As for the playoff runs themselves, I don't care if they went 7 or struggled at times against superstar player lead teams and creative coaching, the results were the same; Casey adjusted, the players stepped up and the team won every series until the Cavs.  

Step in Masai now who kept drafting well over the years and allowed Casey/Stack to implement the system they wanted to see with the big club with the 905's and a couple years later we have today.  The linchpin to all of this is DeRozan and Kyle.  Both have become interchangeable in their positions and DeMar has turned himself into a top 5 scorer in the league.  Kudos to Casey for the buy in, kudos to the organization for taking advantage of the timing/merging with the star players and the 905s and kudos to the players stepping up and playing as a team.

I've been harsh on Casey in the past but when you take a holistic approach reviewing the last few years, these are all marks of a smart coach that seemingly knew more than many thought.  




awesome post! Especially the first paragraph... 
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Rudy-T
Late to the party, but congrats to Casey. 

I am very happy currently with his coaching. I wanted him fired after his first, second and probably also third year here. I was so frustrated with his rotations and bad play calls and even last season with the horrible ISO basketball. I dont remember what offseason it was when Masai gave him the first extension, but I think I was ready to stop watching Raps due to that. And that was at a time when I felt that continuity would be very important, but still he was so bad. 

But to be honest, his rotations have been much better for couple of years now and with the "culture change" he has gotten rid of even the last thing I hated about him (the ISO offense). Im sure I will be back on Fire Casey bandwagon after a bad stretch that will come in somewhere along the season, but I will give him props now to be fair. And really I dont think there has been one game this season I would have felt we lost because of coaching (unless you consider that coach is responsible for players not being awake for the game). 
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moremilk
DocHolliday wrote:


I struggle with this.  To my recollection all I've heard is Casey wanting more ball movement, more 3pt shooting and wanted to implement a similar system the team has now in the summer of 2015.  He was excited in an interview with the signing of Carroll and really wanted Matthews as well.  He spoke of how those 2 along with Patterson would open the game up completely for everyone else with their passing, defense, 3pt shooting and ability to switch amongst themselves.  We had a thread - or several comments - here on it as well at the time; I was stoked about it.  Unfortunately, the team missed out on Matthews, Carroll was a shell of himself and Patterson seemed to lose himself.  Casey went back to what had worked with the players he had and what they were able to give him - the results were 50+ regular season wins and deep runs in the playoffs, which ended the same in both years, against the Cavs. 

As for the playoff runs themselves, I don't care if they went 7 or struggled at times against superstar player lead teams and creative coaching, the results were the same; Casey adjusted, the players stepped up and the team won every series until the Cavs.  

Step in Masai now who kept drafting well over the years and allowed Casey/Stack to implement the system they wanted to see with the big club with the 905's and a couple years later we have today.  The linchpin to all of this is DeRozan and Kyle.  Both have become interchangeable in their positions and DeMar has turned himself into a top 5 scorer in the league.  Kudos to Casey for the buy in, kudos to the organization for taking advantage of the timing/merging with the star players and the 905s and kudos to the players stepping up and playing as a team.

I've been harsh on Casey in the past but when you take a holistic approach reviewing the last few years, these are all marks of a smart coach that seemingly knew more than many thought.  




Then perhaps Casey had some.kind of internal struggle going on, because I've heard at least two interviews with him where he was defending iso-ball and saying it plays to our strengths ...

It's always difficult to have meaningful dialogue though, when the team goes well everybody loves everybody and when times are tough it's the reverse.

And no, winning a series in 7 is not the same as winning in 4, just as losing by 40 is not the same as losing by one.

And I guarantee you that if the raptors flame out in the playoffs, you'll get a vast majority of fans asking for Casey's head and a few trying to justify the failure by blaming x and y player etc.

As far as I'm concerned, our playoffs have not been a success. 2 out of 4 times we lost to weaker teams, including one of the worst performances in history (0-4 against a lower seed). I can't complain about the Cavs losses too much, but it's certainly dissappointing that last season we didn't do better given how much talent we had with Tucker, ibaka etc.

As my last point in this thread, the next time you hear an opposing fan or media pundit complaining about our playoffs meltdowns, perhaps stop to consider they may have a point before labelling them all with a raptors-hater tag. I guess if there is one advantage to not being a media darling, is that you can blame every negative comment on their hate [smile]

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moremilk wrote:
Then perhaps Casey had some.kind of internal struggle going on, because I've heard at least two interviews with him where he was defending iso-ball and saying it plays to our strengths ... It's always difficult to have meaningful dialogue though, when the team goes well everybody loves everybody and when times are tough it's the reverse. And no, winning a series in 7 is not the same as winning in 4, just as losing by 40 is not the same as losing by one. And I guarantee you that if the raptors flame out in the playoffs, you'll get a vast majority of fans asking for Casey's head and a few trying to justify the failure by blaming x and y player etc. As far as I'm concerned, our playoffs have not been a success. 2 out of 4 times we lost to weaker teams, including one of the worst performances in history (0-4 against a lower seed). I can't complain about the Cavs losses too much, but it's certainly dissappointing that last season we didn't do better given how much talent we had with Tucker, ibaka etc. As my last point in this thread, the next time you hear an opposing fan or media pundit complaining about our playoffs meltdowns, perhaps stop to consider they may have a point before labelling them all with a raptors-hater tag. I guess if there is one advantage to not being a media darling, is that you can blame every negative comment on their hate [smile]


Casey kicks ass. Year seven. Deal with it. 
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