DocHolliday
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Wu
Sad?  

Some wonderful memories from the early days and an undeniable impact on the growth of the game in Canada.  But mostly a lot of resentment from me for the way he quit and screwed over this franchise.  And a legacy as one of the greatest underachievers the sport has ever seen.

Goodbye.
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JeffB
Wu wrote:
Sad?  

Some wonderful memories from the early days and an undeniable impact on the growth of the game in Canada.  But mostly a lot of resentment from me for the way he quit and screwed over this franchise.  And a legacy as one of the greatest underachievers the sport has ever seen.

Goodbye.


Yeah, pretty much. I have mixed feelings.....great memories but he had such talent and tbh the last 10yrs of his career he was pretty irrelevant.  And as much as he screwed the Raptors, and he did, I also think the Raptors shot themselves in the foot by hiring Babcock who then traded Carter for a bag of donuts. If we had gotten a great return to add to Bosh......I don't think we'd be nearly as bitter because the franchise likely wouldn't have sunk to such depths the following couple years. That whole thing was a mess from both sides. 1999-2002 this organization  looked promising and then it went sideways with hiring Kevin O'neill and then Rob Babcock.....not sure what they were smoking, but it should be banned.

I'm just glad he's officially retired so we don't have anymore annual VC tributes and will he or won't he retire speculation. 
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Acie
I'm indifferent other than it's just a reminder of how old I'm getting, seeing there is only about a year and a half between VC and myself in age. 



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DocHolliday
Acie wrote:
I'm indifferent other than it's just a reminder of how old I'm getting, seeing there is only about a year and a half between VC and myself in age. 



TBH, I had that same thought, since I'm 2-1/2 years older lol - too many I know are passing and retiring, can they all just stop it please?? 😉 .  As for Carter the player, I loved him, looked up to him, bragged about him, then resented him; in the end I grew to appreciate him though too much past to be excited that the Raps will probably sign him to retire as a Raptor (though I don't believe he fully deserves it).
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MikeToronto
I haven’t been mad at him for years now, and the rings a year ago should’ve washed away any residual anger in others as well, IMHO. 

He entered the league during a lockout and exited it during the pandemic lockdown. Dwell on that. 😋
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JeffB
Crazy!

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moremilk
I always believed a player should retire before he dies of old age, so this is welcoming news.

My first season watching the raptors, and only occasionally, was the season Vince got traded so I don't harbour any strong feelings about the breakup. Whatever his sins, and I fully understand how strong they are for hardcore fans that went through it, the impact he had on basketball in Canada was immeasurable.

And he repented to some extent in latter years, I wouldn't be too harsh on a young guy making mistakes - it's par for the course.

Too bad he never got to become the player he could have been, but I guess longevity counts for something too.

I hope all hardcore fans manage to forgive him, now that he's history.
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LOG
I got my first Raptors hat because of Vince.(I was living in lithuania my mom was in TO) I must have been 13 or so, Raptors were a very cool new team to be a fan of, must have been around 2001

My mom bought the hat from whatever the official store was at the time. And it sucked.. First rain, purple paint going down my face, neck etc. I still kinda blame Vince for my shitty hat. 
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Raptorman
Wu wrote:
Sad?  

Some wonderful memories from the early days and an undeniable impact on the growth of the game in Canada.  But mostly a lot of resentment from me for the way he quit and screwed over this franchise.  And a legacy as one of the greatest underachievers the sport has ever seen.

Goodbye.


My feeling exactly. In one of the Raptors FB groups, they are all "Put his jersey up TODAY!!".  I gave them basically what you said and I got shit on and called an unforgiving moron. It's OK...my wife hugged away my tears.
I think that older people ,like most of us, that lived through it see it far differently than the youngsters that just watch the replays and highlights. I appreciate what he did for Canada and basketball, but should not be forgiven for quitting on us. Yes the Raps made mistakes, but it doesnt excuse what he did.

Keep his pictures in the halls.  MAYBE a dedicated wall. But no way do we hang his jersey. 
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LX
I find it incredible how much both Vince and T-Mac underachieved. Is there a hall of fame for that?
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JeffB
LX wrote:
I find it incredible how much both Vince and T-Mac underachieved. Is there a hall of fame for that?


T-Mac is in the HOF and won two scoring titles. Neither had a lot of team success though.  Karma
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MikeToronto
And Vince will be in the HOF as well. Perhaps not on the first ballot.
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Pzabby_2nd
I remember the season where he faked his injuries not to play, until he would be traded. There was no need for that. Ask for a trade. Maybe even be public about it. But don't be a quitting faker.

For that, I don't feel too sorry for him. That's character deficiency in a big way.
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