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7shikamaru7
DanH wrote:
Yeah, OG and Siakam screwed up a switch, Siakam ended up closing out way too late on Ellington while OG should have switched onto Olynyk (well, technically I think OG was supposed to stay on Ellington, but once Siakam committed OG had to find Siakam's man) but rotated up to a shooter at the top of the arc instead - at the same time Norm recovered to the same shooter (Norm should probably also have read that OG was not in the paint and rotated there instead, but the guilt order still goes Pascal-OG-Norm).  OG finally realizes he needs to be in the paint just in time for Siakam to get blown by in an embarrassing display, letting Ellington get to the rim before OG can meet him with a good contest.  

To top it all off, if Siakam just grabbed Ellington, wrapped him up as he blew by, it would be side-out again as the Raps had a foul to give.  Instead, Pascal weakly swings at the ball (probably fouling him but not enough to get a whistle, not the way that game was called) and its a layup.  Just a comedy of errors on that last play.  

I was expecting to see BeBe back in the game to protect the rim, and the Raps to err on the side of giving up a rushed jumper if need be.  Weird defensive play call, to rely on really young defenders to be able to communicate live switches (different from the MIL game where they clearly knew the exact switches to make, and didn't have to react on the fly).  


It baffles me how the coaching staff didn't put an emphasis on fouling if you get blown by. And you're right, it didn't help that we have young guys on the floor covering the switches. I always thought we have poor end of game plays both offensively and defensively. 
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DanH
7shikamaru7 wrote:


It baffles me how the coaching staff didn't put an emphasis on fouling if you get blown by. And you're right, it didn't help that we have young guys on the floor covering the switches. I always thought we have poor end of game plays both offensively and defensively. 


I'm actually usually pretty impressed with the late game defence (not rebounding, but defence).  Last night was baffling.

No argument on the offence though.  Big part of it is the tendency to remove screeners from the floor and not get the defence moving enough.  Thought it was really weird that one possession where they put JV in for a defensive rebound (I think there were like 4 seconds on the clock) but then called a timeout to get him out for the offensive possession.  Only time I think I've ever seen JV used in a defence-offence sub pattern but only for the defensive possession.
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elT
DanH wrote:


I'm actually usually pretty impressed with the late game defence (not rebounding, but defence).  Last night was baffling.

No argument on the offence though.  Big part of it is the tendency to remove screeners from the floor and not get the defence moving enough.  Thought it was really weird that one possession where they put JV in for a defensive rebound (I think there were like 4 seconds on the clock) but then called a timeout to get him out for the offensive possession.  Only time I think I've ever seen JV used in a defence-offence sub pattern but only for the defensive possession.


Miami played excellent defense on the inbounds and except for the burned timeout DDR still got Norm a 100% wide open look which was followed by a clean layup out of baseline inbound that was also missed. When DDR scored the last time he got to the rim, barely missed but got his miss and put it in. I thought the clutch offense good last night given how poor the team was on that end all game. 

Defense was bad in the end, Miami got two layups on two blown switches for their last four points. Really sucked. 
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DanH
elT wrote:


Miami played excellent defense on the inbounds and except for the burned timeout DDR still got Norm a 100% wide open look which was followed by a clean layup out of baseline inbound that was also missed. When DDR scored the last time he got to the rim, barely missed but got his miss and put it in. I thought the clutch offense good last night given how poor the team was on that end all game. 

Defense was bad in the end, Miami got two layups on two blown switches for their last four points. Really sucked. 


I really don't like the switching defence.  There's too much risk in it for me - for it to work at all, it has to be perfect.  

I agree that DD executed those two plays down the stretch well.  But most nights that doesn't happen - most nights they go away from what has worked all night, and on aggregate go to something that doesn't work very well at all.  The Raptors have a 110 ORTG overall (5th best) and a 98.5 ORTG in the clutch (5th worst) this year.  Heck, most nights they run the same stuff they ran last night, and most nights it doesn't work.  Just because they got good looks from those sets a couple times doesn't mean they usually get good looks from those sets.
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RockOnline
Is it not concerning that Delon kept touching his shoulder? I hope this isn't an issue. :S
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Berimbolo
 i prefer to foul off the inbound regardless unless its a lob.


 i know Casey isnt a fan but with 3 seconds left you gonna shave at least one, maybe more. leaving them in catch and shoot land.


 last play defense was inexcusable schoolyard nonsense so its a moot point.
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deaner
JeffB_STR82DVD wrote:


Wright injured his shoulder again? When?


Near the end of the game at a commercial break. He bobbled a ball out of bounds. It was his shoulder that “gave out” IMO. During the commercial break he was really favoring it and babied it the rest of the game.
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elT
DanH wrote:


I really don't like the switching defence.  There's too much risk in it for me - for it to work at all, it has to be perfect.  

I agree that DD executed those two plays down the stretch well.  But most nights that doesn't happen - most nights they go away from what has worked all night, and on aggregate go to something that doesn't work very well at all.  The Raptors have a 110 ORTG overall (5th best) and a 98.5 ORTG in the clutch (5th worst) this year.  Heck, most nights they run the same stuff they ran last night, and most nights it doesn't work.  Just because they got good looks from those sets a couple times doesn't mean they usually get good looks from those sets.


Short term win now mode? Yeah, easier ways to guard. Long term? Best option and only way to get there is reps even if it means losing a few more games. 

I know, we are 2nd in the east, on pace to win ~55 games or so and all that makes it easy to forget this year is all about development and doing everything possible to become a true contender. With that big picture in mind, all of these things become less painful.  

And the team is staying committed to development. Expanded rotation, all bench units, no staggering of Lowry/DDR, Ibaka in lone vet role at times, forcing bigs to make plays and be aggressive, relying on young guys in significant minutes and also in key minutes, the whole team playing both ends...all in all things are going well. Curios to see if it all comes together before playoffs, it might need another year.
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JeffB
Ibaka suspended one game, DeRozan fined.

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