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moremilk
the Celtics are the luckiest team alive.
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Northern Neighbour
moremilk wrote:
the Celtics are the luckiest team alive.


Definitely this year. They’ve won what 10 games that went to OT or determined by less than 3 points? They have a crazy number of close victories.
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Carlito
Not trying to be negative here ....

JV and Ibaka have been trying to meld into our new offense quite well, even if they don't have the handles and floor awareness that our second unit has ... but hats off to them for the progress they are making in our new offense.  JV is doing a significantly better job on the defensive end as well ... nice to see.

Now DD and Lowry have demonstrated some concerning signs ... while again, there has been progress, it's becomes glaring that the second unit is far superior to the ball movement and capable to play with our new offensive approach.  Need Lowry and DD to get the starting unit to continue and progress with respect to ball movement.  Need to see some significant progress or the playoffs may be another rude awakening.  Moving a play maker to the starting unit (I like OG but the kid doesn't have handles yet) may force their hand ... fingers crossed that DD and Lowry are taking the time while they sit in 4th quarters 😉 to learn something from the kids.
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elT
Carlito wrote:
Not trying to be negative here ....

JV and Ibaka have been trying to meld into our new offense quite well, even if they don't have the handles and floor awareness that our second unit has ... but hats off to them for the progress they are making in our new offense.  JV is doing a significantly better job on the defensive end as well ... nice to see.

Now DD and Lowry have demonstrated some concerning signs ... while again, there has been progress, it's becomes glaring that the second unit is far superior to the ball movement and capable to play with our new offensive approach.  Need Lowry and DD to get the starting unit to continue and progress with respect to ball movement.  Need to see some significant progress or the playoffs may be another rude awakening.  Moving a play maker to the starting unit (I like OG but the kid doesn't have handles yet) may force their hand ... fingers crossed that DD and Lowry are taking the time while they sit in 4th quarters 😉 to learn something from the kids.


Lowry and DDR were sleep walking last night. The veterans will never click as the kids in terms of new style because they are different people who need far less done for high percentage shot, but as you noted already, they've made a ton of progress and if they can keep doing that, level of pristine play will come naturally. 
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LKeet6
Carlito wrote:
Not trying to be negative here ....

JV and Ibaka have been trying to meld into our new offense quite well, even if they don't have the handles and floor awareness that our second unit has ... but hats off to them for the progress they are making in our new offense.  JV is doing a significantly better job on the defensive end as well ... nice to see.

Now DD and Lowry have demonstrated some concerning signs ... while again, there has been progress, it's becomes glaring that the second unit is far superior to the ball movement and capable to play with our new offensive approach.  Need Lowry and DD to get the starting unit to continue and progress with respect to ball movement.  Need to see some significant progress or the playoffs may be another rude awakening.  Moving a play maker to the starting unit (I like OG but the kid doesn't have handles yet) may force their hand ... fingers crossed that DD and Lowry are taking the time while they sit in 4th quarters 😉 to learn something from the kids.


Thing is tho dude, that bench against starters in playoffs can do all they want, but they'd get killed.

DD and lowry are our best players, we need them to get going to beat the best teams. It's the same as the DD iso at end of clock debate.

Maybe the "balance" could be better, but comparing a bench with complete freedom and lack of expectation, against inferior opponents, where they just wait for their moments and play opportunistic bball, is not the same as what DD and lowry "need" to do, in my opinion...
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DocHolliday
LKeet6 wrote:
It's the same as the DD iso at end of clock debate.


You know, I really find it frustrating to read these debates now.  LeBron does it, just did it against Minnny; Irving does it all the time; Leonard does it; Curry and Durant take turns; same with Harden and Paul; the list goes on.  It's the most common end of play set for all the dominant teams.  I'm not sure why DDR is getting singled out all the time for it by some; I mean, wouldn't you want you're best scorer to have the ball in these situations to have the best chance? Not to mention it winds the clock down and limits potential turnovers.  Granted, some of his decisions in these moments could be better (to us watching from an aerial view on TV certainly think so) but DDR is getting better in these situations and the more comfortable he gets in the system the more options he'll start seeing.    
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Dario
DD or Lowry didn't play too well and we still smoked these guys. Bench unit strong. Derozan really has to pick it up though. He needs to peak now going into the allstar break and after
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Northern Neighbour
The big problem on the first unit, offensively anyway, is Ibaka. The ball stops when he gets his hands on the ball. He’s not a quick decision-maker nor can handle the ball very well. The second unit moves the ball extremely well mostly because of Siakim’s quick passes and endless movement. He’s a big reason why the ball hums with his soft hands, quick and decisive decisions, and willingness to get into the paint. Ibaka takes 2-3 seconds before deciding what to do and he doesn’t see the court nor anticipate as well as Siakim.

KL and DD have also hit their usual pre-All-Star Game wall. This has been a common trend for the past 4 years. Call it the dog days of the long season if you will.
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JeffB
Dario wrote:
DD or Lowry didn't play too well and we still smoked these guys. Bench unit strong. Derozan really has to pick it up though. He needs to peak now going into the allstar break and after


DeMars father is really sick and I wonder if that's partly to blame for his struggles the last 2-3 weeks.
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Northern Neighbour
JeffB_STR82DVD wrote:


DeMars father is really sick and I wonder if that's partly to blame for his struggles the last 2-3 weeks.


Quite possibly. The Break cannot come soon enough for him.
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LX
JeffB_STR82DVD wrote:


DeMars father is really sick and I wonder if that's partly to blame for his struggles the last 2-3 weeks.


It's gotta gave some effect.

At the same time I was thinking that he had been struggling for some time as well, and then he got named player of the month. So he couldn't have been struggling that much. His shooting hasn't been up to par, but he's still played good defense and has basically become the de facto pg in many respects, and has proven very effect in those terms.
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