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DanH
And were you talking about game 1 vs the Cavs in last year's playoffs? If the full starters were put on the floor with a lead to defend instead of essentially a tie game, then yeah, they'd have won that one too.
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LX
Numbers. Yeah. Numbers. Did the Raptors het their threes? Did they find much room to get into the lane? No right? So the strategy worked in ot. I am saying that Jonas doesn’t improve on that in any way, especially once he gets to the point where he’s flat-footed. I should have said Jonas was not going to do anything to unclog the lane, as yeah I’m not going to insist that he would clog it up further and that’s not really what I meant needed to be resacted to. Does his screening ability really mean that much? I mean you say Pascal’s screen had zero effect but that’s bullshit based on numbers. Leonard missed a good shot in a midrange spot that he was able to get to as a result of the screen. I’m saying that what was needed more than anything was injecting more pace to get the offense working in a better rhythm. They actually managed to do that a little bit in the third with Jonas in there, but then the defense was not as effective as it had otherwise been. Maybe playing more halfcourt offense with Jonas screening would mean more, but I’m not convinced hands down. There just were not any easy answers other than hitting the shots that were there. Nurse tried to get the team to where they were not just playing into the Nets hands.

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ClutchCity
The love affair for JV is still hilarious. How about not relying on a guy who will be less and less impactful as you get deeper in the playoffs when teams really attack his defence?

JV is a guy that isn't matchup proof. Makes no sense to play him more than about 20mpg with that being the case, when matchups matter even more come playoff time. Since you will have to limit him more in the playoffs (even more so against certain matchups like Boston), it makes a lot of sense to not play him big minutes in the regular season so you can build a team ready to compete in the playoffs. It isn't always about winning tonight's game, this team is focused on something bigger. Trading him for someone more reliable (higher floor) in the playoffs would make a lot of sense, if possible.
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Northern Neighbour
LX wrote:
Numbers. Yeah. Numbers. Did the Raptors het their threes? Did they find much room to get into the lane? No right? So the strategy worked in ot. I am saying that Jonas doesn’t improve on that in any way, especially once he gets to the point where he’s flat-footed. I should have said Jonas was not going to do anything to unclog the lane, as yeah I’m not going to insist that he would clog it up further and that’s not really what I meant needed to be resacted to. Does his screening ability really mean that much? I mean you say Pascal’s screen had zero effect but that’s bullshit based on numbers. Leonard missed a good shot in a midrange spot that he was able to get to as a result of the screen. I’m saying that what was needed more than anything was injecting more pace to get the offense working in a better rhythm. They actually managed to do that a little bit in the third with Jonas in there, but then the defense was not as effective as it had otherwise been. Maybe playing more halfcourt offense with Jonas screening would mean more, but I’m not convinced hands down. There just were not any easy answers other than hitting the shots that were there. Nurse tried to get the team to where they were not just playing into the Nets hands.



The Siakam screen Dan is referring to is the last one made in OT. Siakam's screen was horrible and did nothing to free Leonard from Hollis-Jefferson. That resulted in the Raptors scrambling to find a shot, and FVV bricked the shot.

In this situation, JV should come into the game. His screen setting is immensely underrated / extremely valuable, and it would have been in this case. He would also provide a release in the paint plus an offensive rebounder. His utilization - or lack of - in these situations should be revisited.

Obviously the poor 3-point shooting of late is hurting the club. So is late-game execution, which is why the team should re-examine line-up combinations and draw up new plays. 
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DanH
LX wrote:
Numbers. Yeah. Numbers. Did the Raptors het their threes? Did they find much room to get into the lane? No right? So the strategy worked in ot. I am saying that Jonas doesn’t improve on that in any way, especially once he gets to the point where he’s flat-footed. I should have said Jonas was not going to do anything to unclog the lane, as yeah I’m not going to insist that he would clog it up further and that’s not really what I meant needed to be resacted to. Does his screening ability really mean that much? I mean you say Pascal’s screen had zero effect but that’s bullshit based on numbers. Leonard missed a good shot in a midrange spot that he was able to get to as a result of the screen. I’m saying that what was needed more than anything was injecting more pace to get the offense working in a better rhythm. They actually managed to do that a little bit in the third with Jonas in there, but then the defense was not as effective as it had otherwise been. Maybe playing more halfcourt offense with Jonas screening would mean more, but I’m not convinced hands down. There just were not any easy answers other than hitting the shots that were there. Nurse tried to get the team to where they were not just playing into the Nets hands.



Again, blows me away that we are watching the same games. The Raptors get a beautiful look every time JV screens for Kawhi. They did not consistently get good looks down the stretch - yes, they missed some good looks but they also didn't get enough of them.

100% if they had JV screening for Kawhi late in the 4th, they win that game. 100%, if they had JV screening for Kawhi on the last play of OT, they get a way better look than they did (especially considering they only needed a two and settled for a lower conversion rate three).

There were definitely easy answers. They were the easy answers that had worked all night.
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edki
I know it’s not fair to pick on JV in the game he was our second best player. My comments about his defensive struggle is general.
Northern Neighbor says sagging into the paint on high pick and roll is team’s defensive tactic. I’m not sure if this is something based on observation or they actually said this is what they’re doing. Anyhow, you can’t do it time after time if the opposition guards making their mid range shots or floaters consistently.
Nurse decision to sit JV in 4th and OT of this game is totally understandable. He’s trying to take away Nets advantage and relying on Leonard to close the game. This is going to be Nurse strategy against teams like BOS or GSW. Are we going to blame him for this decision?
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DanH
edki wrote:
I know it’s not fair to pick on JV in the game he was our second best player. My comments about his defensive struggle is general.
Northern Neighbor says sagging into the paint on high pick and roll is team’s defensive tactic. I’m not sure if this is something based on observation or they actually said this is what they’re doing. Anyhow, you can’t do it time after time if the opposition guards making their mid range shots or floaters consistently.
Nurse decision to sit JV in 4th and OT of this game is totally understandable. He’s trying to take away Nets advantage and relying on Leonard to close the game. This is going to be Nurse strategy against teams like BOS or GSW. Are we going to blame him for this decision?


Well, if the coach is making decisions that lead to losses, who else should we blame?
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