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Northern Neighbour
elT wrote:


First year of Murray's eventual extension would be after Lowry's and Milsap's last year which makes that part irrelevant.

Jokic is under contract for next year, Denver has 1.6M$ option. They want to drop it and re-sign him this summer because otherwise he becomes unrestricted free agent next summer with Vlade and Peja coming for him to sign with Kings. That is already rolling IMO via Serbian channels and why they are desperate to lock him up. I don't think he can get more than 25% of cap since he does not qualify for designated rookie extension. Like Wiggins, he gets 25.5M$ for next year.

They have 46.94M$ committed to Faried, Plumlee, Chandler, Arthur. That is dead money that they need to find better use for. Why they gave Plumlee 3 year deal with 12M$ and 14M$ in last two years is beyond me. Especially since they MUST HAVE KNOWN ABOUT JOKIC being their best player since Carmelo. But I digress.

A deal I keep mentioning saves them about 3M$ which puts them at 103M$. Jokic's 25.5 puts them at 128.5 which is 5.5M$ above tax. That is what they get for signing Plumlee. They'd need to fix that, probably can't fully dump him but could trade him for Kosata Kufus or Dwight Powell and save enough to go just under tax or pay less of it.

With Lowry, they'd have no use for Barton as Harris would have that bench role, he is best suited for that. "dime a dozen" is over the top but was a proportional response to your claim that they'd be better off with Barton for half of Lowry's money. I'm still in shock.

Sure they can use the pick to dump Faried, they can and probably will do that but that is throwing away the pick while this is turning it into All-Star.

Veteran leadership needs to play, don't think Parker can any longer. They tried with Devin Harris but it wasn't enough. Lowry is perfect fit. The salary mess is of their own creation(can't believe you used the word "structure") and is there with or without Lowry. It is far worse without Lowry, it is 46.9M$ or 46.9% of cap being spent on one fringe injury prone starter, one back-up big and two end of the bench warmers. That deal is incredibly bad for TORONTO. It is a damn steal for Denver. If Masai does that deal he needs to be fired unless it is needed to get LeBron here. I came up with that trade in blow it up scenario, even then it is disgusting for Raptors.

I'm beginning to think 'Northern Neighbour' is Masai's burner account and showing his protective side of Denver and Faried. After all, Colangelo was Masai's mentor for a short while. Suspicious.

LeBron screening for DDR would be death. Come on now. DDR screening for LeBron would be death with WTF stare from defenders. Only team that would have a chance is GSW and that would depend on mood of our shooters surrounding those two. There's no defending it two on two. Masai's burner would say exactly that to try to mask his true identity.



I'm not being protective of Faried. I have no idea how that is possible. I think he's a bad player with a bad contract, so how am I being protective of him?

On Denver, I'm making a completely logical argument that tries to understand their situation. It's not like I'm making shit up (not saying you are), but offering a rational explanation.

Again, Denver is not going into the tax for a guy like Lowry. Again, they want to get rid of Faried, Arthur, and Chandler so they can re-sign Jokic and stay under the tax. Yes, like I said, they want to re-sign him this year and have his contract start in 2018-19, so he stays with the club long-term. It's also the smart move because the cap is expected to rise next year and the amount he would get also would increase (and of course his pending UFA). Acquiring Lowry isn't going to convince Jokic to stay or not, especially since he and Murray already have a great rapport.

And yeah, Barton, from a short- and long-term cap perspective and given he's five years younger, is a better fit. He's a sixth man and works well in that role. He can play the 1, 2, or 3 spots, and he provides instant offence. Denver doesn't need a starter in the backcourt - they already have two in Murray and Harris, who are the present and future. Denver also isn't going to be a contender. A team deals for Lowry thinking they are close to going over the top.

And finally for like the 100th time, the Nuggets need swingmen. They specifically need a playmaking SF to round out their team. They won't get Durant nor LBJ. George would be ideal, but he's not going there. Maybe they go out to try to acquire Otto Porter, who could be available (but with a horrible contract). Maybe they try to get Tobias Harris, who would be a solid fit. The one thing they don't need is a 32-year old PG with a $31M salary for 2018-19 and about $33M for 2019-20. Heck, DD makes more sense for them since he can play the 3 in today's NBA. Now that's something to consider – DD to Denver for a bunch of expiring contracts and two draft picks.

Now Lowry to Philly makes a lot of sense. Even Lowry to SA makes a lot of sense. Those are two teams in clear need of a PG, although in Philly he would defend the 1 but play more off-the-ball.

I don't really care if Lowry is dealt. I don't see a fit with Denver at all. If he was making $10M less and was 3 years younger, maybe an argument could be made.
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elT
Northern Neighbour wrote:


I'm not being protective of Faried. I have no idea how that is possible. I think he's a bad player with a bad contract, so how am I being protective of him?

On Denver, I'm making a completely logical argument that tries to understand their situation. It's not like I'm making shit up (not saying you are), but offering a rational explanation.

Again, Denver is not going into the tax for a guy like Lowry. Again, they want to get rid of Faried, Arthur, and Chandler so they can re-sign Jokic and stay under the tax. Yes, like I said, they want to re-sign him this year and have his contract start in 2018-19, so he stays with the club long-term. It's also the smart move because the cap is expected to rise next year and the amount he would get also would increase (and of course his pending UFA). Acquiring Lowry isn't going to convince Jokic to stay or not, especially since he and Murray already have a great rapport.

And yeah, Barton, from a short- and long-term cap perspective and given he's five years younger, is a better fit. He's a sixth man and works well in that role. He can play the 1, 2, or 3 spots, and he provides instant offence. Denver doesn't need a starter in the backcourt - they already have two in Murray and Harris, who are the present and future. Denver also isn't going to be a contender. A team deals for Lowry thinking they are close to going over the top.

And finally for like the 100th time, the Nuggets need swingmen. They specifically need a playmaking SF to round out their team. They won't get Durant nor LBJ. George would be ideal, but he's not going there. Maybe they go out to try to acquire Otto Porter, who could be available (but with a horrible contract). Maybe they try to get Tobias Harris, who would be a solid fit. The one thing they don't need is a 32-year old PG with a $31M salary for 2018-19 and about $33M for 2019-20. Heck, DD makes more sense for them since he can play the 3 in today's NBA. Now that's something to consider – DD to Denver for a bunch of expiring contracts and two draft picks.

Now Lowry to Philly makes a lot of sense. Even Lowry to SA makes a lot of sense. Those are two teams in clear need of a PG, although in Philly he would defend the 1 but play more off-the-ball.

I don't really care if Lowry is dealt. I don't see a fit with Denver at all. If he was making $10M less and was 3 years younger, maybe an argument could be made.


I was joking about protecting Faried, Masai's burner and all that, sorry to have posted that.


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