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JoeyJoJo Shabbadu
Poeltl is playing great and it is a pleasant surprise.

JVs rebounding is overvalued by raptor fans and Ibaka is underestimated. Ibakas rebounding number decline coincided with Steven Adams coming onto the scene and he’s played with a big Centre ever since in B.B. and a JV. We did not get our asses kicked on the boards all the time playing Ibaka at the 5 last season.

And the only way you need a guy like JV to clean the boards is if he can stay on the floor defensively. You are not going to put him out there for his rebounding if he’s defending the pnr badly, because there won’t be any rebounds

I’ll wait to see how he’s playing after he comes back because the Bulls tell me nothing
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Northern Neighbour
Ibaka has never been a good rebounder, which is why OKC started Adams and the Raptors need guys like JV and Poeltl to play.

And JV's defence this year has been much improved. He's quicker and more nimble, and the team's PnR defence has improved. Heck, the team's overall defence has been better, including DD.
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JoeyJoJo Shabbadu
Northern Neighbour wrote:
Ibaka has never been a good rebounder, which is why OKC started Adams and the Raptors need guys like JV and Poeltl to play.

And JV's defence this year has been much improved. He's quicker and more nimble, and the team's PnR defence has improved. Heck, the team's overall defence has been better, including DD.


He’s played one game against a bad team. I think it’s fair to say preseason is preseason and it’s one game so let’s wait and see... is it not?
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Northern Neighbour
JoeyJoJo Shabbadu wrote:


He’s played one game against a bad team. I think it’s fair to say preseason is preseason and it’s one game so let’s wait and see... is it not?


I’ll take the coaching staff’s and Masai’s words and more observations from the preseason and the first two games over yours. When you’re making excuses for Ibaka being a poor rebounder, that’s all I need to know.
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moremilk
He doesn't have a big body, but even as a rookie, he had great positioning. He'll probably never be an elite rebounder, but if can average around 9-10, with his defense and potentially great p&r game, he should be an above average center in his career.
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JoeyJoJo Shabbadu
Northern Neighbour wrote:


I’ll take the coaching staff’s and Masai’s words and more observations from the preseason and the first two games over yours. When you’re making excuses for Ibaka being a poor rebounder, that’s all I need to know.


Well hell.... I would have to make a lot more “excuses” for Ibaka to make up for the ones everyone made for the last five years for JV. He’s shooting 40% from three and probably the best rim protector we have. Not overly concerned about Ibaka. I think Bebe should stay rooted to the bench though and would prefer we start Ibaka at th five.

Casey has rarely taken shots at his players in the press. Last January he talked about how JV was playing great and we know how that went. Just saying.

And if we are shooting a ton more 3s, let’s face it, we are going to miss more shots and give up more rebounds on that end, and be outboarded more than we use to be, which is just a change is all.
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DocHolliday
JoeyJoJo Shabbadu wrote:
And if we are shooting a ton more 3s, let’s face it, we are going to miss more shots and give up more rebounds on that end, and be outboarded more than we use to be, which is just a change is all.


I agree and personally I believe the team will adjust their positioning on the offensive end for those rebounds, players aren't used to all the long ones.  I'm curious of the team's transition D though, that usually leads to a lot of fast breaks the other way though it appears the Raps seem pretty good on the defensive end in these situations - for the most part.  

So far, according to Hollinger, the team is 5th in O Eff. and 8th in D eff, and 10th (with the Warriors) in RebR (which is decent considering how many here are upset about the team's inability to rebound).
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JoeyJoJo Shabbadu
DocHolliday wrote:


I agree and personally I believe the team will adjust their positioning on the offensive end for those rebounds, players aren't used to all the long ones.  I'm curious of the team's transition D though, that usually leads to a lot of fast breaks the other way though it appears the Raps seem pretty good on the defensive end in these situations - for the most part.  

So far, according to Hollinger, the team is 5th in O Eff. and 8th in D eff, and 10th (with the Warriors) in RebR (which is decent considering how many here are upset about the team's inability to rebound).


Yeah I expected us to be way worse defensively tbh. Maybe the speed and youth on the bench is a counterbalance
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