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LX
Pzabby_2nd wrote:


Demar isn't overpaid. LeBron and others like him are underpaid. That's the inevitable issue.


Uh huh. But HARD CAP!
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JeffB
LX wrote:


Uh huh. But HARD CAP!


Haahh, beat me to it. The hard caper thinks LeBron at almost 40mil/yr is underpaid.
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DanH
JeffB_STR82DVD wrote:


Haahh, beat me to it. The hard caper thinks LeBron at almost 40mil/yr is underpaid.


He is.  

Like, I mean, it's hard to say any NBAer is underpaid.

But in the context of value provided, LeBron is certainly underpaid.
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Northern Neighbour
I’m all for a higher hard cap (like $130M and a $100M floor) with no max salaries. That would make things interesting, especially in creating super teams.
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JeffB
DanH wrote:


He is.  

Like, I mean, it's hard to say any NBAer is underpaid.

But in the context of value provided, LeBron is certainly underpaid.


LeBron will be a billionaire at some point. Obviously that's not just salary but come on. I get what you mean, Mike Conley makes the same money LeBron does. Which is ridiculous, but I can't bring myself to say a man making 70+ mil/yr from basketball (with endorsements) is underpaid. I think I'd have to vomit if I did that.
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DanH
JeffB_STR82DVD wrote:


LeBron will be a billionaire at some point. Obviously that's not just salary but come on. I get what you mean, Mike Conley makes the same money LeBron does. Which is ridiculous, but I can't bring myself to say a man making 70+ mil/yr from basketball (with endorsements) is underpaid. I think I'd have to vomit if I did that.


Well, that's what I'm saying. Compared to almost anyone, it's crazy to say he's underpaid.

But that completely ignores context.  In terms of the revenue LeBron creates, he is certainly being paid less than what he is worth, let's put it that way.
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JeffB
DanH wrote:


Well, that's what I'm saying. Compared to almost anyone, it's crazy to say he's underpaid.

But that completely ignores context.  In terms of the revenue LeBron creates, he is certainly being paid less than what he is worth, let's put it that way.


How much revenue did MJ generate for the league, same with Bird/Magic etc....they were not technically paid what they were worth either, even taking into consideration the era they played in. Those players saved the NBA. Point is, I get the context but where does it end? What is fair value and how is that concluded?
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Pzabby_2nd
JeffB_STR82DVD wrote:


How much revenue did MJ generate for the league, same with Bird/Magic etc....they were not technically paid what they were worth either, even taking into consideration the era they played in. Those players saved the NBA. Point is, I get the context but where does it end? What is fair value and how is that concluded?


No one is talking about what's fair in the general sense. The market determines fair market value. The max salary for players is an artificial suppressor on that. Would you not bid higher than the current max to get LeBron on your team? I would. So would all NBA teams.
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DanH
JeffB_STR82DVD wrote:


How much revenue did MJ generate for the league, same with Bird/Magic etc....they were not technically paid what they were worth either, even taking into consideration the era they played in. Those players saved the NBA. Point is, I get the context but where does it end? What is fair value and how is that concluded?


No arguments here.  MJ didn't get paid what he was worth and he got a contract worth literally the entire cap his last two years (last two real years - Washington never happened).  The entire cap!

I'm not saying it's anything new for superstars to be underpaid.
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