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dwchills wrote:

If this happens I don't even know what I would do. Check it out

That. Would. Be. SICK.
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this trade could be possible 7 years from now...
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DocHolliday wrote:
That. Would. Be. SICK.

Oh man, yes please. Sully could play back up behind him. Powell and Ross can take over at the three (not a huge Carroll fan anyways). 


...But really, come on guys - this isn't happening lol.

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For all the perks that come with being a professional athlete, the schedule has its drawbacks. It is difficult, for example, to take part in any sort of class that requires consistent attendance. A couple of seasons ago, Toronto Raptors center Lucas Nogueira decided to learn how to play bass. He signed up for lessons, but quit after a few weeks because it demanded too much of his time. 

Nogueira, 25, played percussion and sang in a samba band called Connection last year. The band played some shows in small Brazilian bars in Toronto, but broke up when one of its members moved back to Brazil. After a recent practice in midtown Manhattan, he took out his phone and played a video of three men -- one of them 7 feet tall with a hairdo that has been described as "a rainforest head cloud" -- drumming and singing on a couch in his apartment. 

"They start to come to my house, then they invite me to be part of the group," Nogueira told me. "Then every time I can -- because I have a lot of games and practices -- every time I can, I participate in concerts."

People recognized Nogueira, of course, but he loved that he was able to play music without causing any sort of uproar. 

"Brazilian people, they chill out," he said. "They did not ask for autographs, pictures. They don't care. They just want to enjoy their time. And it was nice. It was fun."

Without the band, Nogueira hoped to revisit the bass class this season. He lamented that it didn't make sense given how often the team has been on the road. 

"I live music 24 hours," Nogueira said. "I try to live like a musician, but I don't make money from it. Every day I'm studying different songs. Like, I like to pay attention to instruments. Like, this is what I'm looking for. I love it so much, music. I wish, one day, if I retire from basketball, to start, like, a career in music. This is my goal that I have."

It is hardly unusual for an NBA player to display a passion for music. Damian Lillard raps under the name Dame D.O.L.L.A., Victor Oladipo is an R&B crooner who released an EP in October and Iman Shumpert freestyled for Funk Flex in November. Nogueira, though, has little interest in what most of his teammates are listening to. He has the Red Hot Chili Peppers' logo tattooed on his elbow, and he is taking recommendations on spots in Toronto that cater to his taste. 

"It's a Drake city," Nogueira said. "Everywhere you go, it's Drake, Drake, Drake. And I like some Drake songs and Drake is a very nice guy and he's very talented. But you know, he's Canadian, he's so famous, so everywhere you go, they're playing Drake. Actually, I don't know any bar that's like, oh, that bar plays rock."

Before practice that day, Nogueira listened to the piano-driven English pop rock stylings of Keane. "Every day, I gotta listen to Keane," he said, "and I don't listen just to one album." 

In addition to them and the Chili Peppers, he easily puts Oasis and Creed in his top five. He cannot, however, settle on who else should make the cut: "Five, you can split. Aerosmith, I like Sublime, Bon Jovi. This is my music style. I don't really listen to hip-hop."

When Nogueira was a teenager in Brazil, he loved Green Day, Blink-182 and Simple Plan. He now goes back to pop-punk when he feels nostalgic, but there are some bands from that era -- Hoobastank, for example -- that he continues to listen to.

"One of the bands that I love so much and Canadians, people hate: Nickelback," he said. "I don't understand why people — because Canadian people, when you're famous, they support you so much. They love to support famous Canadians. And I don't understand because I grew up thinking Chad Kroeger is amazing, I love him. And when I came to Canada, people are like, 'You like Nickelback?' And everybody starts laughing in my face."

Never is Nogueira more earnest or endearing than when he is talking about how surprised he was to find out Nickelback was seen as a punchline. He said this does not bother him, though -- in his line of work, he can't find musical common ground with his peers, anyway. Raptors equipment manager Paul Elliott likes some of the same stuff, Nogueira said, but Elliott's taste leans more aggressive.


These days, most of Nogueira's singing is done in the shower and around his apartment. He loves Keane singer Tom Chaplin not only because "he's too good, live and in studio," but also because Chaplin has taught him new words. 

"I can speak English, I can communicate, but I'm not like amazing at speaking English," Nogueira said. "So when I listen to music, I'm not just listening to music, but helping me become a better English speaker."

In November, former Oasis frontman Liam Gallagher played a show in Toronto, but Nogueira was on the road with the Raptors. During February's the All-Star break, ex-Oasis guitarist Noel Gallagher's High Flying birds will play in Toronto, but Nogueira will be in Florida visiting his daughter. It is reasonable if you don't have endless sympathy for an NBA player missing out on extracurricular activities, but to understand Nogueira is to know that this is genuinely frustrating for him. 

Asked how many of his tattoos are music-related, he said "a lot," then estimated that 85 percent of his skin is covered in body art. The day before, he looked at himself in the mirror and decided he wanted to add "like 40 more music notes" to surround the radio on his stomach. 

"Everybody needs music, but some people take it more serious than other people," Nogueira said. "I take it serious as f---."

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Ex-Raptor Nogueira reveals battle with depression

Lucas 'Bebe' Nogueira played four seasons for the Toronto Raptors, after toiling in the NBA's summer league for two spells. But earlier this year, the 26-year-old Nogueira found himself out of the NBA and training in Sao Paulo, Brazil, hoping for a return to the top basketball league in the world.

Nogueira has been dealing with depression since late last year.

Depression also led to his release from Fuenlabrada in Spain's Liga ACB, the 7-foot center said, adding that he hasn't given up on a career in the sport.

"I have responsibilities now," Nogueira told "I have a daughter to feed and a family to help. People depend on me. This helped me to push through. I'm a young man and I cannot surrender. I should use all of that to inspire me to play my best basketball again."

Some might think it would be virtually impossible to suffer from depression while earning millions and performing on the sport's biggest stage.

"This is why I kind of stopped talking about my frustrations. I talked to a lot of people I shouldn't have in this period of time," Nogueira said. "I thought they would help, but they didn't. People start to make fun of you and mock you just because you have some money and some status, they think you're untouchable, like you're not human. Money and status don't matter that much. It [depression] can happen to anybody. You can't escape just because you're famous."

Depression has also affected others in the NBA. DeMar DeRozan, Nogueira's former teammate with the Raptors, discussed his bout with depression last year.

"Everyone found out through the media," Nogueira revealed. "Maybe [Kyle] Lowry knew it already because they were inseparable. If you're not a communicative guy like myself, it's hard to share this stuff with other people. Everyone got scared, you know? A guy with his athleticism, technique and status we think cannot suffer with this. No one had the opportunity to talk to him just like they didn't talk to me either. I was pretty bad in May. It got worse in September, then I decided to come back to Brazil."

Nogueira averaged 3.2 points, 2.8 rebounds and a blocked shot in his four seasons in the NBA, all with Toronto.

During his recent time in Spain, 'Bebê' admitted to having a drinking problem. He started his career at the ACB as a teenager before declaring for the NBA draft in 2013. After he was drafted by the Celtics in 2013, Boston traded his rights to Atlanta. He played in the summer league for the Hawks in 2013, then for the Raptors in 2014, and was signed later that year.

Nogueira says he has been sober for three months.

"I'm not the victim here and I don't deny that," he said. "I'm a sincere guy who has always taken responsibility for what I did. I'm very much like a good friend I have called Felipe Melo [former Brazilian international soccer player]. We are very authentic. I think I should've had more opportunities, but maybe I did not deserve them. Everyone has their time to go out and drink, but I went over and over again. And there was no one to, you know, step on my brakes.

"I went out a lot. In Spain, we had one game per week. You're young, you have some money and no limits. You would eventually find the party. It's Europe. I had no work ethic whatsoever. When I went to the U.S. I saw that a 15-year-old kid had more discipline than I did. It is a cultural thing."
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