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DocHolliday
DanH wrote:


My point about the rebuild was that if they want people to stick around, and come back quickly when they are competing again, and if they want the Raptors brand to be a positive one when they are on the come-up after the rebuild, they need as much sustained success now as possible.  Ducking the tax now and bailing on this window early by half-assing it, will only reinforce the perceived second-class status of the organization in the league.  

And it may well happen in summer of 2019 - which means they only have to bite the bullet of a single taxpaying season if they keep the band together next summer.  It seems a ridiculously obvious choice to me.


I'm on board with going into the tax for a couple years before a retool/rebuild/insert whichever word, if JV is in the long term plans, which is what I'm really getting at.  For me I guess, if the team's not going to truly contend, it doesn't make any sense to go into the tax yet - not to just keep JV anyways; and if the team is going to time it for the decline of LeBron or a move out West (as some have stated here) then it seems to make sense to hold off going into the tax as long as possible to maximize the roster.  Although the wrinkle to that line of thought is the possibility of the league eliminating conferences for the playoffs.  So many variables, we'll just have to see how the season goes and how the team can incorporate JV into a guard driven system, which so far has not been the greatest.
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DanH
If LeBron is moving out West, he's doing it next summer.  So the timing is perfect there.
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Pzabby_2nd
DanH wrote:
If LeBron is moving out West, he's doing it next summer.  So the timing is perfect there.


to get past the cavs, or win a chip? But if the latter, I don't think a decent window for that opens up (barring miracles, etc) for 5 ish years. Not like tax will get them, they're even finding new ways to get money!
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JoeyJoJo Shabbadu
Either JV plays so much better, is improved, and plays up to the money or he's trade bait.  They will go into the tax to keep him if they have to because they can't just dump him for nothing, since that's just a waste.  If he plays much better and can stay on the floor they will keep him and pay the tax and he will be worth it.  Or if they can trade him with other assets and improve with a replacement and they will pay the tax.  But I don't see one scenario that they don't pay some luxury tax next year.

And yeah, guys like Bebe and Bruno aren't going to make it when you can find cheaper replacements that aren't huge dollars when you are looking at what cutting each one of those two will save.
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DanH
Pzabby_2nd wrote:


to get past the cavs, or win a chip? But if the latter, I don't think a decent window for that opens up (barring miracles, etc) for 5 ish years. Not like tax will get them, they're even finding new ways to get money!


Once you're in the finals, anything can happen. And frankly in this era of basketball, losing to the Warriors is the new championship.
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Kaddrik
DanH wrote:
Once you're in the finals, anything can happen. And frankly in this era of basketball, losing to the Warriors is the new championship.


especially if you don't get swap in 4 !!! lol !
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I really think JV is gonna have a nice year.

The guy I see being moved if that happens is Ibaka.

OG is gonna take his spot. 
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