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DanH wrote:


No updates, but the a beat reporter was asked online if maybe Siakam would be maybe ready for the 25th (as his injury was initially described as the least significant of the three), and the response was just that they hadn't heard anything to indicate that Siakam is close to returning.


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LX
moremilk wrote:


og has been great overall this season, but occasionally he's showing signs of much more - if these injuries were an opportunity to show he can do that on a consistent basis, I don't think that's going to happen. Like I said, he needs one more year before he can pull all these bits together, for now, it's probably flashes here and there.

There's a great player in there imo, and the improvements this season are much greater than it's sometimes apparent. I really thing he's on the cusp of a siakam like breakout - and maybe it will come this season, but I'd put my money on the next. A better jumper, a bit of added ball handling, some extra strength, and, most important, better timing, making the better read more often. All those areas, he's really close. He can be a primary/secondary scorer on top of his defense -  a max player basically.


thanks - that is something my brain can grasp. And i agree with all of that. And I was hoping to see a little bit more progress with more usage, but aside from his damn three ball being off at the moment, i’m not all that disappointed. The guys doing the Wizards broadcast were freaking out over him, saying “he’s not just a role player, he’s looking like a star”.

He is having something similar to Siakam’s season last year. He’s never going to stand out in the same way though. The dude is blocking shots, grabbing boards, and growing bit by bit offensively. He’s not only really close, he’s right there quite a lot of the time. It’s going to be interesting to see how they make him a bigger piece of the puzzle, and when and how that develops. It would be nice to see in the playoffs, and least here and there, and hopefully they are working towards that.
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JeffB
DanH wrote:


No updates, but the a beat reporter was asked online if maybe Siakam would be maybe ready for the 25th (as his injury was initially described as the least significant of the three), and the response was just that they hadn't heard anything to indicate that Siakam is close to returning.


Which reporter? Most of them don't know their ass from their elbow.
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DanH
JeffB wrote:


Which reporter? Most of them don't know their ass from their elbow.


I think it was Koreen. He and Blake are pretty plugged in.
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moremilk
Carlito wrote:

Just because Siakam is hurt we shouldn't expect him OG to raise his game so fast ... Siakam had the opportunity of championship leadership in the starting 5 and didn't have the pressure to perform as the 'guy' ...  


a boy can dream though, no? The game siakam got injured was OG's best game imo, nifty passing, scoring in multiple ways, his usual top defense. That type of game has been sprinkled in among more subdued performances throughout the season. 

then again, the last two opponents have been two very good teams, with some pretty good defenses, elite in Indiana's case. If siakam misses significant time, after this week we'll have some easier opponents and maybe that will enable OG to put together string of good offensive games together and solidify his skill set.
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moremilk
LX wrote:


thanks - that is something my brain can grasp. And i agree with all of that. And I was hoping to see a little bit more progress with more usage, but aside from his damn three ball being off at the moment, i’m not all that disappointed. The guys doing the Wizards broadcast were freaking out over him, saying “he’s not just a role player, he’s looking like a star”.

He is having something similar to Siakam’s season last year. He’s never going to stand out in the same way though. The dude is blocking shots, grabbing boards, and growing bit by bit offensively. He’s not only really close, he’s right there quite a lot of the time. It’s going to be interesting to see how they make him a bigger piece of the puzzle, and when and how that develops. It would be nice to see in the playoffs, and least here and there, and hopefully they are working towards that.


well, that's the context of my comment - I was hoping (without really expecting it, yet) for OG to fill some of that usage that siakam vacated. From that perspective, he's been underwhelming - and only in that context. Overall, I couldn't be happier with his play this season. I was expecting a good season, I was very impressed with his pre-season performance, and even with all that, he's exceeded all my expectations so far.

Alas, my expectations have been re-adjusted now - I can't wait to see OG being talked as a star, not as looking like a star. I really expect him to contend for an all star spot next season - and I don't think it's even a hot take at this point (even though he's still largely unrecognized by the average non-raptor fan).
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moremilk
DanH wrote:


I think it was Koreen. He and Blake are pretty plugged in.


it's pretty bizarre how they're handling siakam's injury. From multiple sources I've read and the fact that he played several minutes after getting hurt, the impression I got was that it's a fairly minor injury - and that may be the case in the end. But if it is minor, why don't they say it. Officially, afaik, he's listed as out indefinitely, which is pretty ominous.

In general, we are very mysterious about injuries for some reason, probably to avoid creating false expectations (like with zion's 6-8 weeks which is probably going to stretch and stretch). It's still annoying as a fan 🙂
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JeffB
DanH wrote:


I think it was Koreen. He and Blake are pretty plugged in.


Yeah, those are pretty much the only two I trust.
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DanH
moremilk wrote:


it's pretty bizarre how they're handling siakam's injury. From multiple sources I've read and the fact that he played several minutes after getting hurt, the impression I got was that it's a fairly minor injury - and that may be the case in the end. But if it is minor, why don't they say it. Officially, afaik, he's listed as out indefinitely, which is pretty ominous.

In general, we are very mysterious about injuries for some reason, probably to avoid creating false expectations (like with zion's 6-8 weeks which is probably going to stretch and stretch). It's still annoying as a fan 🙂


Indefinite technically means the same thing as day to day. It's only ominous because it's open ended and so its natural to assume the worst. The injury description actually seemed pretty tame (I think they even called it like a "stretched leg muscle" or some such not real injury). Probably being really careful with a relatively mild sprain or something.
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moremilk
DanH wrote:


Indefinite technically means the same thing as day to day. It's only ominous because it's open ended and so its natural to assume the worst. The injury description actually seemed pretty tame (I think they even called it like a "stretched leg muscle" or some such not real injury). Probably being really careful with a relatively mild sprain or something.


not only it's open ended, but usually it's used to mask the bad end of the range. If it's a 2-3 games thing, they usually call it day to day or something that indicates that.  

I'm starting to really wonder if he's not going to play tomorrow and it was all a big ruse to fool the Celtics (not the injury, that's real - but the "indefinite" recovery time) 🙂
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LX
Mobaigz6 wrote:
Need Lowry to score 30 ppg every night from here on out.


seems to be working out pretty well
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