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JeffB
Lonzo's father must be thrilled about this deal. 🤣
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bozonic
JeffB wrote:
Lonzo's father must be thrilled about this deal. 🤣


That did not take long...


https://twitter.com/i/status/1140071432212402176

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elT
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Tim Bontemps
@TimBontemps
The Pelicans will get the following picks from the Lakers, league sources tell ESPN:

No. 4 pick in 2019
Top-8 protected in 2021, becomes unprotected in ‘22
Unprotected swap in ‘23
Unprotected first in ‘24
Unprotected swap in ‘25

Tremendous haul for David Griffin & the Pelicans.


Just looking at these picks details in a vacuum, that is a potential robbery. Both five and six years from now, there's a good chance Lakers are very very bad and Pelicans will have their pick. Sure, there's no telling what will happen but this is some excellent negotiation for picks.
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JeffB
elT wrote:


Just looking at these picks details in a vacuum, that is a potential robbery. Both five and six years from now, there's a good chance Lakers are very very bad and Pelicans will have their pick. Sure, there's no telling what will happen but this is some excellent negotiation for picks.


Agreed. If LAL gets a championship out of it, it's worth it imo. That being said, I'm far from convinced this gets them a championship. Going to be a very interesting summer.

Btw, apparently they want Kemba with their remaining cap space.
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elT
JeffB wrote:


Agreed. If LAL gets a championship out of it, it's worth it imo. That being said, I'm far from convinced this gets them a championship. Going to be a very interesting summer.

Btw, apparently they want Kemba with their remaining cap space.


And they are gonna get him IMO.
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elT
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 Tania Ganguli @taniaganguli
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A clarification on the haul of draft picks heading the Pelicans' way. The 2021 pick goes to New Orleans if it's in the top eight, if not they'll get an unprotected first in 2022. Swap in 2023. Unprotected first in 2024, with a right to defer to 2025.


So,
#4 in 2019
2021 pick is protected 9-30, becomes unprotected in 2022.
Swap in 2023
a choice between unprotected in 2024 or 2025

So no swap in 2025.
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LOG
elT wrote:


So,
#4 in 2019
2021 pick is protected 9-30, becomes unprotected in 2022.
Swap in 2023
a choice between unprotected in 2024 or 2025

So no swap in 2025.


Having in mind that AD was leaving and the way last few trades went down for a superstar, NO just robbed LA
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JeffB
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Having in mind that AD was leaving and the way last few trades went down for a superstar, NO just robbed LA


Yep. Initially didn't care for the trade for them, but now given the draft picks.... definitely robbery.
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elT
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Having in mind that AD was leaving and the way last few trades went down for a superstar, NO just robbed LA


It doesn't happen if Nets, Knicks and Celtics weren't ready to make huge offers. Boston backed out from including Tatum but Knicks and Nets still were a threat. That pushed the Lakers to go for it. And the offer in the end isn't much different from what we learned about it during the season. But Griffin negotiated the protections amazingly. It is highly unlikely the pick is top 8 next season so the whole thing gets pushed back into distant future when Bron is likely to decline or even retire and Lakers might break up. Just smart. And if he leveraged giving up on Kuzma to get those protections aligned like that, that is spectacular.
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Someguy again
LAL is back in the hunt for kawhi. If the gamble pays off for LAL, big win. Massive jumpstart on NOP's rebuilding too. Lonzo is an excellent guard when he has the ball, most especially in transition.

If I were NOP i would not let him go. Lonzo and zion would be quite the run-and-gun duo, especially in fast breaks (Zo & Zo lol). Yes, their offense efficiency would drop significantly in a half court setting due to the shooting problems, but the defense would just be as potent. If they copy sacramento's fast pace offense, we could see NOP make quite some noise in the west. Just not enough to catch the top tier teams which can run (GSW, HOU, DEN) by surprise, but they will exceed expectations as a first year rebuilding team.

Liking both sides of the trade.
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Northern Neighbour
Someguy again wrote:
LAL is back in the hunt for kawhi. If the gamble pays off for LAL, big win. Massive jumpstart on NOP's rebuilding too. Lonzo is an excellent guard when he has the ball, most especially in transition.

If I were NOP i would not let him go. Lonzo and zion would be quite the run-and-gun duo, especially in fast breaks (Zo & Zo lol). Yes, their offense efficiency would drop significantly in a half court setting due to the shooting problems, but the defense would just be as potent. If they copy sacramento's fast pace offense, we could see NOP make quite some noise in the west. Just not enough to catch the top tier teams which can run (GSW, HOU, DEN) by surprise, but they will exceed expectations as a first year rebuilding team.

Liking both sides of the trade.


The Lakers won't have enough cap space to sign Leonard. I also highly doubt Leonard has any interest in being the third wheel on the Lakers, as he showed this year he's a player a franchise should build around. 
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Someguy again
Northern Neighbour wrote:


The Lakers won't have enough cap space to sign Leonard. I also highly doubt Leonard has any interest in being the third wheel on the Lakers, as he showed this year he's a player a franchise should build around. 


That's true, kawhi is a fun guy who loves smashing dynasties. So he stay. However this trade does open up LAL as a hopeful candidate for him, unlike before the trade, as LAL's masterplan is to sign kawhi, durant, kemba, obama and ghandi.
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